Ya’ll need to check out my new app I created. It converts musicxml, xml, and mxl files to Synthesizer V files in literally seconds! The lyrics are perfectly formatted with the + and - signs in the right places, it follows all the repeats, endings, codas, etc of the music. Check it out! Give me your feedback!
-Rob
Here’s a demo video of the app: https://youtu.be/JaRyCJiu8Cg?si=ijdW9NECI9fG_SHh
This looks great! But just to let you know, DT implemented the “import musicxml” option into their new 2.2.0 beta
Yes, I actually just tried 2.2.0. That’s great they implemented it! However, so far mine is still more advanced, especially with one key feature: The ability to take a 2-stave SA/TB file and explode the parts into four individual tracks in Synth V with no editing.
Very nice app but unfortunately, I avoid subscription models like the plague.
That’s totally fair, I’m the same way. What do you think would be a fair lifetime with free updates license?
Thanks Flipper! I’m going to check it out later today, and if it can explode staves automatically and playback repeats and endings it is definitely going to be useful. I have 2 suggestions for improving the functionality of such an app:
With the 2.201b update I notice a problem with the Dreamtonics XML import not being compatible with the dictionaries, because any punctuation in the XML file will then not work in the dictionary. For example, I imported the Hallelujah chorus XML, but the main word in the XML score is spelled 4 different ways at various times (Hallelujah - Hallelujah, - Hallelujah. Hallelujah!) Since the default pronunciation had to be changed I noticed that I had to make four different dictionary entries, because the addition of a punctuation mark renders the word unknown to the dictionary. This has been brought to the attention of Dreamtonics, because they should improve the dictionary to ignore punctuation, but perhaps if you are programming a better XML conversion app, could there be a box-tick option to remove all punctuation? Likewise an option to remove all capitalization, which also sometimes messes up the dictionaries.
I don’t know how many people might like it, but a REVERSE XML converter (Synth V to XML) would be great for people like me who compose and develop music in Synth V and DAWs and only later want to render it to notation, which means I have to fix all the lyrics, hyphens, dashes, slurs, etc.
My favourite is the FLStudio model, even though I have a Reaper license.
Thanks! I’ll look into that!
thanks for the feedback Thomas! I think #1 could be a very easy integration for me to include! And #2 probably would be as well, I’ll take a look at that soon! Thanks!
I have tried the 2.2 beta. Is it just me or does it only do one track with the words and the rest with the default note ( in my case set to ‘mm’) . Maybe the mysicxml files were not complete or the lyrics were only presented in one stave.. I have to try your app to see if that is a quirk of Syntv V beta or the files.
Look very enticing for a gospel music writer. I’ll look into this as I have created many sheet music files in the past for my choir who only sung by sheet music.
If anyone has tried to subscribe to my SyntchScore app (https://synthscore.base44.app) I just discovered my host site was giving an error when trying to subscribe. Everything is fixed now and subscriptions are open! Give this app a try! I’ve been using Synthesizer V’s 2.2 beta and this app is still superior in it’s converting of musicxml, mxl, and xml files. Especially when it comes to, for instance, “Exploding” two staves (SA/TB) into four or more individual trackss (S/A/T/B). It handles all the slurs, ties, syllables, etc perfectly. Give it a test run. There is a free 5-day trial when you sign up!
I just added a Lifetime purchase option! https://synthscore.base44.app
800 dollars? Is there some kind of thing which justifies the lifetime purchase being more expensive than the product it’s supposed to be paired with? SV2 in comparison is $99 and it just feels really REALLY weird that the price is so steep? I get that converting xml files to SVP’s is important to you but pricing it like this feels too far when people can just pick the lowest subscription option for $20 you know? I don’t want to jump to conclusions over why it’s that high in price but it just irks me I guess?
I understand. I price it high because I have personally experienced the potential it has. One reason I priced it the way I did was because the only subscriptions that have been purchased so far are the annual ones for $199, that’s without even a trial run for a month, so I was seeing that other people were seeing the potential as well. Many were asking for a lifetime license. One week I did a total two songs using synthesizer V for two different clients that would have paid for the lifetime license. And I did them both before lunchtime. The reason I created the app was for an existing ongoing contact with a large company for whom I produce a high volume of work. If you don’t see the potential for this to pay for itself, then it’s not for you. Merry Christmas!
Meaning no disrespect, I think you will find that within a year, another programmer will market something similar at a price appropriate for this demographic.This is mostly a hobbyist forum, not digital Tin Pan Alley.
(side note, the global market is slipping into a depression partially caused by job loss due to AI - Irony noticed…)
I think it’s great that you are developing new apps that extend the usefulness of SynthV, and it is clear that you have put a lot of time and work into this, which is commendable. I should say (and I think others will as well) that I feel disappointed to hear that it will cost $799. It looks like a really good program, but is it $799-good? Pricing a new product is tricky. Higher prices don’t always earn more money, nor do lower prices necessarily earn less. If you tried selling a program for $799, and also for $99, you might find that if you sold eight times more at the lower price, you would make the same, and if you sold nine times more or any greater the lower price would actually earn more. What the market will bear is an important consideration. Larger volume at a lower price is the best way to establish yourself and prevent others from easily producing the same thing for a lower cost.
Since this is a new function, many users may wait and see if Dreamtonics themselves improve the limited functionality of their own XML import, or perhaps another third-party will do the same. It’s a little early to put down too much money on the first product that comes out, since it is likely that if one company can do something, others will also be able to do it. In the case of your program, it is rendered less valuable today since Dreamtonics recently introduced XML import themselves. Of course, we know the extra things your program can do, but it seems to be mainly preparing the XML file before sending it to SynthV. Many of us are able to pre-prepare our notation files to play repeats, explode multipart staffs into single lines, repeat extra verses with new lyrics, and so forth - although it takes longer to cut and paste, but it is doable – so all I can see is that SynthScore does what we are able to do, but much faster. For some this might be worth $799, but if the program did something that we could never do at all, with any DAW or Notation Program (or both) then the program would be more than just a time saver.
Finally, I have never heard of an $800 program having only a 5-day trial period. A month is more common for something of that cost, or at least longer than 5-days. SynthV Studio Pro, $99, is an eighth of your cost and still has a 14 day trial, and it is the buyers of that program that are your market. Furthermore, even after the 14-day trial Dreamtonics offer a money-back guarantee for 7 more days if you are unsatisfied, and prudent buyers appreciate such guarantees. Dreamtonics are in fact quite stingy in terms of trial periods and money-back guarantees, because most other software I have bought has even longer periods. So this is not in line with what users are accustomed to and I wonder if you will get much response with your current price and limited conditions. Still I wish you the best of luck, and will continue to keep an eye or your program. I only offer these observations in the spirit of this forum where we all benefit from the input of others.
Thomas,
Thank you for the thoughtful feedback — after reading through the responses here (including yours), I agree that the original lifetime pricing wasn’t well aligned with this community.
This forum is largely made up of hobbyists and semi-professional users, and while SynthScore delivers significant value in high-volume professional workflows, that doesn’t automatically translate to what most users here are willing or able to invest. That distinction matters, and it’s one I take seriously.
Based on this feedback, I’m lowering the lifetime price to $299 and extending the trial period, so people have more time to properly evaluate whether the tool fits their workflow. I’ll also make sure this change is fair to those who have already purchased annual subscriptions, as well as to anyone looking to upgrade or purchase for the first time.
I really appreciate the respectful, constructive tone of your post. This kind of input is exactly what helps a new product find the right footing, and I’m grateful for the honesty as I continue refining both the tool and how it’s positioned.
It is great that you are offering better prices and conditions Flipper!
My gut feeling is that you are on to something with your programming ability and musical knowledge, but the current version of SynthScore might require more features to make the kind of money you envisage. In assessing the program we can determine its market is:
Synthesizer V user distribution:
Asia (primarily Japan, China, Taiwan, Korea): ~60–70%
English-speaking + Europe combined: ~30–40%
English-speaking countries alone (US, UK, Canada, Australia, etc.): ~20–25%
Continental Europe: ~10–15%
≈ 65% Asia / ≈ 35% Western (English + Europe)
Then consider that not ALL Synthesizer V users use notation files or XML conversions, as they work primarily in a DAW or within Synth V alone, and we come to the conclusion that the market for SynthScore is a small subset of all Synthesizer V users. It is extremely useful to you and your clients, but the question is how many others are there like you? We will need to eliminate Sibelius users (25%) from the market because it offers them no advantage, and also to realize that the largest notation program users, MuseScore (65%), may likely not be a great market because being a free program many users are not willing to pay for software, or are only casual or non-professional hobbyists. On the flip-side (or flipper-side) we can envisage that with your program and SynthV’s ability to import XML the sales of SynthV will skyrocket in coming years into the arena of users of notation and XML, which is surely why Dreamtonics added this functionality, and also why Dorico is making a big deal about it, with their new YouTube video about it.
So, my conclusion would be that SynthScore, at whatever price, would benefit from: