when multiple languages are combined, sometimes the sound bleeds through (so here this Spanish rr turns into a guttural R because of this Xa)
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The guttural rhotics also sometimes become T sounds just like pf.
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since French is released (although in a prototype pre-beta phase), speculation is now over, right?
Wrong.
There are still questions to be answered:
- What is the next language to be added (in 2027)?
- Will there be native voices in the new languages?
- What type of voices will they be?
- Will any of the phonemes added in 2.3.0pt1 version change their ASCII representation, be removed or added? (per @Dreamtonics comment: “We are aware that the current phoneme set and notation system may not be optimal. They are subject to ongoing refinement and we do not guarantee phoneme compatibility between this technical preview and the final release.”)
Here is my likely answer:
- Since 2026 saw French, German, and Portuguese release, 2027 just plainly screams Italian (followed by Russian in 2028 if the yearly cycle is kept but if not, Russian may be added as late as the early 2030’s)
- The Tone Chroma yellow voice is a likely candidate though nowhere near 100% certain - look at the title of the newsletter that focused on other stuff and didn’t talk about the voicebank, it’s titled “Mid-May 2026” instead of “May 2026”, implying there might be a second newsletter planned for this month, which will likely focus on the voicebank and may be potentially related to this new language update.
- The mention of a new genre in this yellow bank, might suggest French chanson (Piaf-type). If the yellow voicebank is unrelated to this update, Indila-style French-pop would be a likely option instead. For Portuguese, there are many young female vocalists from Brazil (they explicitly said: “For Portuguese, we currently target a relatively neutral Brazilian Portuguese accent.”)
- The German dZ sound is missing. French and Portuguese might gain a glottal fricative because it’s used for end breaths in SynthV. Dialectal French vowels (A, 3:, 9_~) are also a likely addition, so is Portuguese 1 if someone wants to manually edit phonemes to make a more European pronunciation (though automated support of a perfect European accent is unlikely) - though Chinese i\ will do for now.
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I am doing an Italian cover with Portuguese phonemes since Portuguese is the closest to Italian phonetically
and I just noticed a new phoneme (kw). Does that mean there’s also gw?
Yeah literally, when I was testing Der Hölle Rache with Mai 2 and wanted to add the rolled R of Spanish, as it was in between two German notes, it just became R, so I had to use the trick of multiple Japanese [r a r a r a r] notes to mimic it 
Ehmmm… no . Not really … we’re already fine with Spanish. Portuguese can maybe come near to some Italian dialects, but not the principal language. As native speaker I don’t recommend non native speaker to venturing into such a delicate territory as Italian.…
I think maybe “4 4 4” in Portuguese would work
I think everyone would feel the same about their own language. This is what I sometimes feel about Polish as well.
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In fact, I wouldn’t dream of putting hand on foreign languages unless asked to. 
You can do your own testing, but know that I’ll be merciless if the results aren’t satisfactory. Hahaha 
OK then 
I am an IPA nerd so I have some idea but obviously a native speaker would find it slightly accented as there is no native Italian voicebank in SynthV
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Nope, it needs to have a vowel in between. Same goes to all the Languages that use this phoneme (Japanese r, Korean 4, Spanish r, English dx, Portuguese 4) having more than 2 times this phoneme will trigger an L (Except English dx, that since for some vb is the default un-stressed t or d, so instead becomes two t’s on beginning or two d’s or t’s in the middle of the line). Japanese or Spanish [r vowel r vowel r] give the best results, and Portuguese [4 vowel 4 vowel 4] can somewhat achieve a poor version of the same combination. I personally recommend the Japanese one. Hate how THE ACTUAL rolled r (Spanish rr) is very hard to get right if not tweaked.
For me the Portuguese 4 works well and is very sharp , sharper than r in spanish. only the Asian languages trail off into L sound. Maybe it depends on the voicebank. What voicebank are you using? Also I recommend using Tone Shift rather than pitch to tune Spanish rr
Yes… Anyway, as I said, for now, we are more than satisfied with Spanish, until we also have the support of Italian, believe me.
In these example I’ll use the voice Liam.
Here are the examples in Spanish phonemes.
1: Natural out of the program (rr) sounding like a somewhat rr with noise
2: Pitch tuned (rr) actually sounding like rr
3: Method [r vowel r vowel r] to fit the size of the actual phoneme, a very good rr impresion
In this example with Portuguese phonemes
1: The solution you proposed (4 4 4) sounding like 4+l
2: The solution using the method [4 vowel 4 vowel 4] a very good impression of rr actually
The same [r vowel r vowel r] in Japanese and Korean phonetics
I sometimes prefer how Japanese sounds over Spanish because of the huge difference in data size (more Japanese data over Spanish data in training, therefore a better result)
btw, not to sound like a knows-it-all but I’m a Spanish (Latinoamerican living in Spain to be more accurate) so I think I can have a better opinion on how this sounds, and I’m also an IPA enthusiast so I totally get you
Edit: and yeah, I only use these ones over the original rr in Spanish when the many phonetics around the specific note bleeds into it making it impossible to get the sound right no matter how I tweak it (like I said when using Mai for Der Hölle Rache, a German song)
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with the pitch bend it works with Portuguese
Feng Yi 2
Liam
Mai 2
Mo Chen 2
Yi Wei
not all of them are perfect some of them are floppy, but many sound good.
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I love the Spanish language so it’s great to have a native speaker in this thread
I know. You already said this. For the Portuguese r I’m not talking about Italian specifically but foreign languages in general.
Check new technical preview
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What new technical preview??? is there a 2.3.0tp2 now??? where can I find it?