I want to use SynthV in Nuendo 13, which is an extended version of Cubase, but it only starts in linked mode.
Steinberg claims that Cubase and Nuendo handle ARA in the same way, so it should be compatible. https://forums.steinberg.net/t/australia-support-for-nuendo-ara-synthesizer-v-studio-pro-issue/920344/10
Is there a way to get full ARA working in Nuendo as well?
I hope soon with the next version 2.0 (maybe this month). But it is not guaranteed.
I hope so too, but it seems Dreamtonics doesnât even know Nuendo exists. Itâs not mentioned anywhere in the ARA mode documentation.
See there: Documentation: ARA - unsupported-functions
Full ARA mode is currently only available on certain DAWs; Logic Pro, Nuendo, etc. cannot use full ARA mode
Looks like Iâm blind. Thanks for the link.
Then I donât really understand why they chose not to support Nuendo. All my other ARA plugins work fine in full ARA mode the same they work in Cubase.
I donât think itâs a choice. Maybe Nuendo does more than Cubase, so they have to handle more stuff. Nuendo seems to be more different than we think (or another reason of internal release process).
given ARA V1 was released in 2011, and âVersion 2 of ARA was announced in January 2018â and the API open sourced in 2021, why more DAW and plugin vendors donât properly implement it? (mostly issues with OS and DAW as proper full implementation in the OS /
DAW allow probably 99% of ARA enabled plugins in to work. Cakewalk was one of the first to implement ARA back in 2014 or so, and ARA for all plugins (that i have using ARA, and itâs more than a few) work seamlessly in CbB and Sonar on Windows. Cakewalk Next does not support it on Apple OS⌠given the sheer volume of complaints about ARA on the Logic, Cubase, Live, and Studio One (and not to mention ProTools), and most of them on Mac OS - itâs paints a picture of Apple needs to support it natively (or least not block it), and the DAW folks need to get onboard.
as a note, i almost never use the ARA for Synth V, it works perfectly in Sonar, but my composition and ârecordingâ workflow says - record the stuff, then add it to a mix, not try to record and mix at the same time. and composition in a DAW (to me) seems very limiting versus other options to create⌠IMHO.
Iâm sure they had their reasons, but it could also be a misunderstanding.
I donât work at Steinberg, so I canât say for sure, but I think Nuendo is an extended version of Cubase the same way, Studio One Pro was an extended version of Studio One Artist. It would be weird to support only Artist and not Pro.
The name is different, because Nuendo started as a separate project and has brand recognition now, but the code was merged and is developed as a single project. Itâs refered to internally as âSequencerâ Cubase 14 is out now. When will Nuendo 14 be here? - #22 by TimoWildenhain - Nuendo - Steinberg Forums
I know what a âsingle projectâ is, Iâve seen many projects like that in my very long experience⌠One project but maybe several different source codes. And if Cubase 14 came out and not Nuendo 14⌠well letâs say that maybe itâs just a proofâŚ
I have just tested this in Nuendo 14 and it works as expectedâŚ
Here is a demo of a short phrase repeated by:
âŚwhere the tempo ranges from 120 up to 240 then 120 down to 60. The ARA plugins in all cases controlled the DAWâs time position and responded to ramped timings from the DAW as expected.
Thatâs weird. For me, Synth V1 still opens in bridge mode in Nuendo 14. Does yourâs not say âARA Bridgeâ when you add it to an audio clip?
Ah Sorry ! Yes, Iâm using all plugins as a bridgeâŚ
I did try the âfullâ ARA in Cubase Pro 14 and didnât like it. By adding the ARA extension to an audio track (which I subsequently mute), I can then add an instrument track (Synth V 2, etc) and itâs synched to tempo changes which is what I wanted⌠I can also work exclusively in the instrument panel and move the playhead around with the DAW following in synch.
I donât know what other advantages might be in âfullâ ARA ???
In full ARA, notes are linked to (audio) events in the arranger. If you move the clip in Nuendo, the corresponding notes will move inside Synth V as well. This makes arranging tracks much easier.
With out full ARA youâll have to open Synth V and move your notes around in there.
Okay - didnât think of that⌠However, with the new group thing you can just move the group - easy. No ?
You can move it inside Synth V, but you canât move it from Nuendoâs project window. And thereâs also no visual feedback inside Nuendo of where youâre vocals are located.
I work around this by adding empty MIDI events to my Synth V instrument track, but without full ARA, I have to keep them in sync manually.