After shifting everything to the right, all the parameters work differently from the original

Hello,

I am running into a major issue while using Synth V and wanted to ask for help.

I need to create a new intro, so I moved the timing to the right, but all the existing parameters (pitch, emotional expression, etc.) are behaving differently compared to the original. Especially in my case, I tend to split groups quite a lot.

How are you all dealing with this issue? This is very frustrating. I would appreciate it if anyone who knows a solution could share their advice. Thank you.

PS: By the way, this forum website has so many glitches. Ironically, while the instruments they sell are cutting-edge, the forum feels like a website from the early 2000s.

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Have you checked your parameters?
I don’t think it moves with the notes unless selected.

Even with fixed parameters that have no automation curves, it seems that if the overall timing changes, they are ultimately affected by something unknown, which in turn impacts each split group (this is purely my personal opinion). I feel that this affects both the nuance and the transparency of the vocals. In the end, changes might even be required for the mix through plugins. Even if we change the timing in ARA mode, the result will probably be similar, right?

Anyway, I should try adding automation end points to both sides of the split groups to lock the fixed parameters in place. I feel like Dreamtonics needs to improve this as soon as possible, as it is making me dread the work of splitting groups.

If you have any workarounds, tips, or additional insights regarding this issue, please share them. Thank you for your answer.

Could you share a mini-project containing 2 groups and 2 tracks?
One would be the original version, and the second would include “timing decay.” This would make it possible to observe the differences you are encountering.

i’ve always had this issue as well!! i’ve tried looking it up in the past and could never find any answers, so i assumed it was maybe just a fault of the program or something :sob: will be keeping an eye on this thread..

Hello JFA, I apologize, but due to a busy schedule right now, I won’t be able to provide visual materials for this issue. However, you can easily test this from your side as well. It can be confirmed that if the timing (bars, beats, etc.) of a vocal group track worked on Synth V2 is placed in various sections, the vocal sound deviates significantly from what the user initially configured. This is clearly noticeable not only by looking at the waveform but also through auditory perception.This means it sings in a different style based on the shifted timing.

For instance, moving it 1 minute later versus 2 minutes later results in different nuances in the singing.Ultimately, you can only get the sound of the original singing style you initially configured by returning to the section you originally worked on.

Of course, I am currently using a fairly large number of tracks—around 18, including choruses. While this CPU load could be a variable, I strongly believe that the user’s modifications should absolutely never change, regardless of any timing adjustments. Thank you.

That is why I am asking you this. For I have observed no difference when switching (with or without my script) from one bar to another.