We need Manual Mode back, like...now

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People were skeptical but willing to hear out the lack of Manual Mode in SV2, but…it turns out we were right to be uneasy.

Trying to get a voicebank to sing a strong, pitch-perfect note is a nearly impossible task, and getting them to do it repeatedly is an actual migraine. I am not having fun with trying over and over again to draw a perfectly horizontal line, or wrestle with the pitch control points.

Rigid mode and turning down the Vibrato Modulation does absolutely nothing to solve the issue either. With multiple voicebanks, the voice sings slightly flat or sharp, and overall sounds worse than the base take.

I also dearly miss the Vibrato function. Being able to dictate exactly where you wanted the vibrato to start and how strong it is is now replaced with pitch control points that you always have to place more than one of, and pray that the algorithm gives you what you want.

All of this is so frustrating because we literally had it in our hands in a simple and easy to use interface, and now it’s gone.

I and many, many others just want Manual Mode, or a very similar tool, to come back as soon as humanly possible. Otherwise, I just can’t keep wrestling with the program for something as basic as a flat pitch.

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Yes absolutely. It’s basically a crisis if they don’t add that to SV2. That was so important to my workflow.

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I do a lot of work with Barbershop Quartets…being able to delay the vibrato start point, and how strong it goes is CRITICAL.

Also, being able to specify (In MANUAL MODE) how quickly the singer moves from one note to another is ALSO CRITICAL…and I can’t find a way to do EITHER of these things AT ALL in V2.

For now, I’m forced to go back to V1…and I’m REALLY DISAPOINTED. MANUAL MODE is a MUST.

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Hello. Another disappointed user here. Some time ago, I realized that the more this technology evolves (which is, of course, impressive), and the more the voices become so realistic that they are indistinguishable from a real human, the more boring they become to me. I find much greater satisfaction in creating songs with voices that are as robotic as possible.

SVS v1 allowed me to remove all modulations with just a few clicks, giving me a pitch curve as flat as a table and exactly the kind of vocal I was looking for. In version 2, I can’t achieve a similar effect at all. This is a big step backward - for me, even bigger than dropping Linux support, which I can’t fully switch to for audio production anyway due to a few essential plugins that I can’t get running via yabridge.

All of this makes me regret purchasing the upgrade at the moment, and I’m sticking with v1 as my primary vocalsynth. I just hope it won’t stop working with some future Windows update if Dreamtonics doesn’t provide a fix for an abandoned product.

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You can. You can use the Vibrato Envelope lane in conjunction with the master vibrato slider.

Use Pitch Control curves mode.

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You could use a vocoder, or something like Baby Audio’s Humanoid.

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Or just use SV1. I don’t think it’s that big a deal to keep running an older version of software, if it meets your needs the best. I think there’s definitely some philosophy of “This is the new version, get used to it, there are workarounds” going on, but SV1 is still an amazing, amazing product. No reason to not use it. I have lots of older Macs in my house running older versions of the Mac OS. They’re still great.

I have faith in Dreamtonics. I had two major issues with SV2. They’ve already fixed one of them. Hopefully six months from now there’s a vibrato speed control so I don’t have to use workarounds. If not, then I’ll use SV1 for Solaria and Saros, and SV2 for Liam and Hxvoc.