Hello peeps.
I was just following a tutorial, added the word “revolution” and then some - and + on other notes to either change the note and hold the note or use another syllable to continue singing the word. This generally works, but as you can see in this video, Synth Vpro2 refuses to sing the last syllable. why!?
What voice are you using and what language have you got selected for that voice, my first guess would be having no phoneme for the ‘sh’ sound?
hi, Solaria, English. There is no problem saying SH if I put a +plus on one of the earlier notes… see here
Solaria ver 1 and 2 both work flawlessly here … until:-
if I introduce a silence, a gap between penultimate and final note, she stops singing for the final syllable but I don’t think that is the cause here.
Your first vid shows you deleting the last few notes and entering a new final syllable ‘+’ — at which point I notice a PLUS sign appearing where phonemes should be listed, weird!
Is there some strange alternative + symbol with an odd ASCII code on your machine?
I don’t think this is a bug, but a genuine limitation of the program logic. It seems that SV2 will look back over previous notes and find the phonemes in this case ‘l ow’ and continues forward from there. It’s not going further back to check if this is part of a known word, ie revo-lu-…
My solution would be to retype the word revolution at the start of the sequence and allow SV2 to filter through all your elongations and phoneme changes.
Disclaimer - I haven’t tested this theory as I don’t have time, but wanted to put this forward in case it helps?
Had time to test this theory…
If you highlight / select all the notes you want the word ‘revolution’ to spread across, right-click and choose Insert Lyrics from the context menu, you can then type in the word and its pattern thus:
revolution - + + - - - +
Once you have established with the program this pattern, you can left-click the initial note and change the word ‘revolution’ for any other 4-syllable word and it will follow the same pattern across your note group.
ie exhibition, constipation, etc…
Hope that helps?
Tricky. It “seems” to be working. I tried replicating it here and it worked. A few thoughts I had…
Thanks both of you, I did not know I could do that in the lyrics entry box…
I still don’t really get why it did not work in my example. No matter how many notes I added with - or + it would not complete the word… so it does not seem to be purely a case of having to have the right number of syllables and matching +.
As I saw in the video and even in the thumbnail right away, for the last syllable of the word “revolution,” yes, you placed a plus sign in the lyric but you also placed a plus sign in the phoneme itself, so it’s counted as silence. You also have a plus sign in the third note of her singing 3rd syllable, which doesn’t matter as she’ll still sing it. All you do is remove the plus sign as the actual syllable and keep them within the notes, then the problem is gone.
Ah, good eye @BiroZombie ! The video resolution is so low I didn’t notice it. Putting + in the phonemes does indeed let me reproduce this.
ah thanks!
I did not get that there was a difference or that it would cause a silence…
that’s a great way to do things… is it in the manual, I have not seen anything about writing a word with the way it’s split and spread like that! TX
I don’t know if it’s in the manual for SV1… SV2 manual is a work yet to be in progress.
Sad to say, I’m one of those people who learn by doing / experimenting / getting frustrated before I read the manual - you know the motto “If all else fails; read the manual”
