As the title of this topic states: Is it safe yet?
I have Synthesizer V2 Upgrade in my cart but I am wary of upgrading just yet.
From all the messages about ‘bugginess’, the vocal sounds changing when moving from V1 to V2, some dearly loved features that are either re-implemented or removed, and on and on…
Yes, software upgrades and backward compatability are a very rough road… especially for some of us who have become very set in our ways.
To the Dreamtonics team: (Who may at this point be a bit overwhelmed)
In order that I and others with similar cautiousness do not lose the upgrade offer, can you give some sort of estimate to addressing all of these issues from your very loyal user base?
Perhaps a detailed user manual with ‘how’ one might use the new features, and ‘how’ to rework existing V1 songs so that the detailed work is not destroyed?
Maybe you could setup a new/reworked prioritization list so we as users might know to some extent what is being fixed or what are the new ways of doing old things.
Please please take this all as a suggestion… The product you have created is amazing and I think most on this forum are very much behind you and your efforts.
Again, thanks, I know that software upgrades and new versions are a very tough problem.
I’m using V2 now and very happy with it. It has never crashed and all functions I need are available and working (even full phoneme control).
Also, V2 “upgrade” is totally safe from the aspect that you will now own both V1 and V2 and can freely use either one. If you find V2 needs work for you then you can continue using V1 until V2 improves.
Safe in terms of software actually working seems to depend on your operating system, and/or DAW.
V2 works perfectly fine for me on Windows 11 and Cubase 14 Pro, but I have found it to be totally unworkable for actually being creative because of the many problems and issues raised elsewhere in this forum.
For the price, it is a good deal, and I’m pleased I have the upgrade, but it feels very much like a beta version, and still needs a LOT of work to be anywhere near as good as V1.
Honestly, it depends on whether you want to import V1 tracks and have them sound identical. If you want that, it’s impossible in V2. V2 changes V1 tracks - sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. I brought over 4 V1 tracks and they all sounded worse. You can tweak them in V2 and if you’re willing to spend the time, you can get them very close… but you may not be able to get them exactly the same. The other issue is that manual control for Vibrato is gone. You can control how much vibrato, but not how fast it is (unless you want to go note by note and draw it in). Here’s the other issue - to get Solaria singing nicely (and not harshly like the new default) you need to tweak a lot of values… but unless I missed it, you can’t save out those values. So you have to apply the tweaks every time. On the bright side, it’s so much easier to adjust each syllable now and make a singer sound more natural. That part is great. But removing manual vibrato and the ability to store the settings for each vocalist are very big cons. I am hopeful they fix these things though. V1 is so amazing that I have faith in the company.
You can run V1 and V2 side by side, including plugins. In that sense it is not upgrade. So; you can still use V1 if you don’t deliberately manually uninstall it.
Good point and it should be mentioned. You can run V1 and V2 in the same DAW session, even. I do NOT regret buying the upgrade when I did, at a discounted price, because Dreamtonics WILL address some of these things. I have faith.
For all the comments above, thank you for the great feedback.
Does anyone have tips for preserving all the V1 stuff and having a completely independent V2?
Installing V2 doesn’t touch your V1 install. All my V1 stuff (voices, VST plugin, etc.) are all still available in their normal places after installing V2. I essentially now have “both” available equally.
