Hi,
I was impressed with a demo I heard of Jun by Audiologie and I was thinking of adding his voice to my collection .
Does anyone have experience good or bad with this product?
I currently can’t access the Audiologie website as it thinks I’m using a vpn (which I’m not).
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I have Jun and he is one of my 10 licensed AI voices. I have used him a few times as one of the harmony vocals. I have not used him in a solo voice. So far, only Asterian gets a solo voice from the male voices, because I also sing in the bass position. You can find Jun singing on Youtube. He has a lot there. If I were to use him in a duet, for example, I think he would probably go best with Kevin, but that is just my feeling. I think he is usable, like any AI voice. He wants to play with him and fine-tune it to his liking. Otherwise, I bought Jun at a time when I was not using a VPN. Now I am using it and I was rejected at Audilogie. I did not try it with the VPN turned off.
I own Jun. He has a voice that is low-ish in the register, but not as low as Asterian, and kimd of smooth. I would say in between Asterian and Saros. The main drawback of Jun for me is that he has a bit of an accent. It is not strong,but noticeable.
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Thanks for the feed back. I think Jun may suit some of my songs more than Kevin does so I think I’ll go ahead and purchase.
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i use Jun as a backup vocal (a lot) but not as a lead, for several of the reasons other folks noted. i mainly use Kevin as my primary male lead, and the other male AI vocals may play roles in harmonies or getting certain vocal effects that a single voice cannot achieve (for me anyways).
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I thought about buying Jun when I started using Synth V last year but he just sounded very camp to me, for want of a better word. A few months ago though I bought Oscar who has a fantastic airy timbre and I’ve had excellent results using him. He’s not a native English voice but can sing perfectly well in English just with a little more effort needed tweaking the phonemes to work around the slight accent.
More recently I also purchased Noa Hex who has a more powerful and versatile voice than Oscar but the base recordings for the voice bank must have been lower quality as there’s almost no air to the audio so he needs a lot more post-production.
Just my two cents!
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Thanks. I’m looking at Noah hex as well but that’s interesting what you say about having no air in the base recordings. I have Kevin and nine zero and they have their uses but I need something else. What I really want is a classic British rock voice like Plant , Daltrey, Gillan or someone like that but it doesn’t exist as far as I can find.
Thanks again for your thoughts
Yeah a voice like that is definitely missing from the lineup at the moment. I haven’t used it myself but some users on the old forum would use audimee.com to “rock up” their synth V vocals a bit
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Thanks for the tip. Not heard of it before and it looks interesting.
For Rock music a la British singers from the 70s you mention, I have found Nine Zero and Saros are the best two options at the moment.
Nine Zero has more of an Ozzy, Axl or Josh Todd vibe. Saros compensates that with a less raspy, but fuller voice.
No voicebank at the moment is perfect for a Plant, Gillan kind of voice. You would need to find a compromise with either Nine Zero if you want more distortion, Saros if you want a clear fuller voice.
Jun is more like a an early David Coverdale register, a deeper voice with a bit more soul. I think Saros could probably adapt to that Coverdale-eske thing.
I hadn’t considered Saros at all but having listened to some tracks I think his voice might do the trick.
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Do you know which audimee-voice they were using? I’ve tried SoundID Voice AI, but there is also no real ‘hard rock’ or metal singer. And the SoundID Voice AI sound a little bit thin compared to Saros.
Yes, for your case, what you say you are trying to achieve, I think Saros is the best choice from the current line up.
If Saros does not get you close enough, you will need to wait for future VBs or try vocoflex over some of the existing VBs. I have not tried that yet, so I am nlt sure how that could go.
IIRC it was Blake I think
I also tried Audimee on my voice and Blake, who can also do bass position, but it failed for me. I wrote about it on the original forum with Kenta Johansson, who used Audimee on Saros and it suited him perfectly for his songs at the time. The problem is in the singing technique, which, in addition to normal vocal cords, uses “Ventricular eyelashes” (they are above the vocal cords). I use them for deep tones that I can’t sing with just normal vocal cords. Ventricular eyelashes are completely dominant over normal vocal cords in metal singers’ singing, and mastering this technique is very challenging for metal singing to have its quality. This singing technique is called “Growl”. For Synthesizer V Pro, the scripts “growl.lua” and “dynamic growl.lua” were written, which can approach metal singing by drawing a “pitch” curve. I don’t have much experience with these scripts yet. I use my bass Growl to get below D2 up to A1, where it is still usable for singing. The other notes up to C1 are more of a demonstration that I can sing them, but they are no longer essential for the song. This technique allows you to get to the negative octave “C-1_B-1”. The technique is different from the metal technique, in that in the notes A1 to F2 the dominance of normal vocal cords and Ventricular cilia is not so dominant over each other. Below A1 the dominance of Ventricular cilia over normal vocal cords increases smoothly and at the same time the Growl sound is “frequency thinner growler” with lower notes. With AI singers voices, Asterian inherited this technique from its voice provider. Eric Hollaway is perfect at this technique. The problem with Audimee is that they do not have the Growl technique built into their algorithms and they do not evaluate discontinuous notes correctly and is used tones much higher.
in all fairness, I like JUN but idk if he’s 90+usd good. He can be versatile but also a tad boring unless you know what you’re doing.