Great video Ale. However, I don’t know if it is ethical to take the Suno voices as a model for Vocoflex… But there is a “But”. Where does Suno get the voices from? The only advantage of working with Vocoflex is that I am bound by the Vocoflex musical watermark and so I don’t allow myself to use the voice without the consent of its living owner. I have the advantage that I don’t have to borrow someone else’s voice for a metal voice and although I can’t sing metal. I am an ordinary amateur singer, but for years I have been able to use an voice organ that is located above the vocal cords and helps the vocal cords in singing without the singer realizing it. That voice organ is called - “Ventricular eyelashes” - ( “VE”) and I use it to sing in the C1-B1 octave. I can’t do these notes with normal vocal cords and I use “Ve” because of its dominance over normal vocal cords. The deeper the tone, the greater the dominance of “Ve”. In the octave C0-B0, the dominance of “Ve” is such that the tone created in this way turns into intoned noise. Metal singing does not have to be sung so deeply, although it is sometimes quite deep, but it is in the skill of the metal singer that even in higher tones “Ve” is strongly dominant. With “Ve” it is possible to achieve even higher tones than can be achieved with falsetto. So far this way of singing is not used much in the mainstream and this singing is not taught much, but time will tell and maybe in the future it will be used by most singers. This way of singing can be used for bass in AI singer- Asterian, because his voice provider Eric Hollaway can do it.
It is not the SUNO part that I want to bring out.
Actually just hearing about SUNO and the like makes me allergic .
It is the way you can work with Voicebanks in SynthesizerV by changing all the parameters and with the help of Vocoflex that you can achieve the almost unthinkable results toward heavy metal sounds.
And the fact that we should put “almost” no limits whatever when it comes to creativity.
I don’t think Ninezero is “the” Synth V metal singer. Everybody says he sounds like Ozzy, and that’s all. And several other users seem to think of “raspiness” or something the like when they think of metal. But when I hear the word “raspiness”, I’m thinking of Joe Cocker, Janis Joplin, Bonnie Tyler, Gianna Nanini…, not of metal. I like Caligula’s Horse, Haken, Pain of Salvation, Dream Theater, Circus Maximus, Ayreon, Symphony X, Opeth… What these bands have in common, though each in a very different way: the singers are singing high. (You may say this also of mre traditional metal bands like Dokken, and of all the old hard rock bands.) That’s also one message of your explanations, or? And in this respect, I think, Saros does the best job. I don’t know why you judge him as too soft. I’ve added some snipppets of some of my songs. The recordings were not made for being published, I hope you can accept the sound quality. I did nearly no tweaking (except in the first example where I used IZotopes vocal synth). In the second song I’m using also Ninezero, as opponent of Saros.
@MattiS It’s not me that made the video and making sentences.
It’s just a YouTube video that I found which I agree with the techniques that are explained on Solarias voice, on how to make her sound more Metal
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But that doesn’t change my opinion, of course
Alessandro, I apologize for the misunderstanding I caused, but I thanked you for pointing out the video is from mixPHANTOM and Suna’s services are useless for you and my needs, and their songs created using artificial intelligence are narrowed down to more or less similar songs. The singing is so-called perfect, but it does not correspond to human sing and the accompanying music is glued together from samples. It seems to me that someone bought the created machine and is making money with it. But I could be wrong, because I don’t listen to that much of what is created in this way. If I use a virtual instrument that I don’t play, I listen to it and choose which version of this instrument I will use via the Kontakt module, which allows me to get at least a little closer to the playing of a live musician, but a live singer or musician is invaluable to me. And for AI singing in Synthesizer V Pro, I look for inspiration and feedback from a live singer. But working with AI singing in Synthesizer is an amazing learning experience for me. No perfect machine can do that.
MattiS you listed a whole range of top music, some of which I know quite well, but some I haven’t listened to yet. You have a greater feeling for metal music and know it better than I do. I mentioned Ventricular eyelashes because a certain number of young guys lost their voices when they mostly used normal vocal cords for metal singing. I personally wouldn’t dare sing a metal song, but I think that with a few attempts using Synthesizer V Pro and Vocoflex, I could put together a ten-second - base metal pattern for Vocoflex. But I won’t try it yet. It might not turn out well either.
Finally I found the time to try out creating a metal singer from a female Synthesizer V voice. It was indeed very easy to change Felicia to Felix ;-), I really was surprised. Felix’ voice is leaner than Saros’, sometimes somewhat metallic (sometimes there are artefacts, but you can eliminate them), more cutting. I think he’s got more of that kind of power that metal demands than Saros. And, as he’s derived from a female voice, he sings the high notes more easily than Saros. But this is at the same time the reason why I won’t replace Saros in most of my songs. The effort which it takes Saros to sing these notes is part of the expression of the vocals, and i don’t want to miss that.